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What’s Your SEO Code? - Musings on Outing other Websites for Fun and Profit

Most people are taught that the first rule of SEO club is that you don’t talk about SEO club (some learn this rule harder than others.) This is an important question as far as most people in the SEO community are concerned. Based on the system that information is knowledge, power, and ultimately money, you can see how people often have a vested interest in outing other peoples techniques, or keeping them secret. You also learn very quickly that who you can trust is extremely important. Everyone has their own code. Mine personally is started with - ""their are no hats, only goals". With the essence of that being that only illegal techniques are truly crossing the line, but everyone has to determine their ultimate level of risk and reward (similar to investing or anything else). Hats are bullshit. Techniques and code should be determined by one’s career choice and goals.

My buddy Brent got a little bit of flack last night for this post, about digg selling links. I’ve also had more than a few conversations defending my friend Rand’s choices for outing sites on more than one occasion (as well as arguing with him about where I disagree with his choices). I figure I’d open it up for a bit of public debate, as well as state for the record where I stand with it, since I helped Brent in this case rather than mentioning it was a bad idea. This of course, got me riled up on a pretty good topic of discussion anyhow, so I figured it was a good time to put it on paper quick and bust out a blog post.

I’m not gonna point out names, but you know who you are, and where you stand.

When is it okay to out a site’s SEO techniques? Here’s the spectrum of types of people I would categorize people into. "Outing" a site includes doing a spam report or blogging about it, which are essentially different methods to do the same thing.

Old School Affiliate SEO/ Competitive Webmaster

It’s never okay to out a site. EVER. EVER. EVER. Google Japan buying links MAY qualify as an exception, but probably not. They’ll definitely talk about spammy techniques in the bar (and you’ll learn a helluva lot), and swear you to secrecy, or have you know that secrecy in these matters is always implied. I respect this code the most, and only disagree with it in a very few rare instances.

I think Rae sums it up nicely, “back in the days when we used to have Omerta and anyone with a name earned it - kinda like television before reality TV”

Basically - the rule is “keep your mouth shut unless you have been granted permission to speak about it” on anything outside of a conference presentation (especially if you heard it in a smokey pub at 1 am).

SEO Consultant/ Blogger (aka me)

It’s okay to out ultra large sites on very rare occasions with proper justification and research, knowing that they are large enough that there will be no penalization instituted because of the hypocrisy of search engines. Outing these sites is mainly to piss them off a bit (get their attention), or demonstrate the hypocrisy of search engines. I didn’t get this, until I saw some of my favorite OG SEO folks discussing Colgate, BMW, and other large brands that ultimately got a tiny slap that amounted to nearly nothing more than probably a link monkey getting a scolding from their boss. In cases of big brands being the new black hat

Personally, I still wouldn’t out these, but I can at least find a rational reason why a journalist/practioner (see below) might when they discover and seo company or consultant that totally sucks at what they do and does it for a giant dumb corporation. Again - not my thing (and I would never do it since I respect the OG affiliate competitive webmaster code far too much), but I can at least understand their logic, unlike some of the other following types of people.

This being said, on at least one occasion, I’ve ACCIDENTLY outed things that I didn’t mean to (and still feel bad about it JS:) Tough lessons to learn, so I always try to err on the side of STFU

"I’m curious who the genius is that told Experian buying a straight link on Digg was a good idea. Pretty fuckin clueless." - Greg Boser on Twitter

Oh - one other time it’s probably okay to do a spam report - if you’re searching for blues clues and get beastiality pr0n

Weak (and cowardly) SEO

People who do spam reports and outings because they’re not competitive enough to play the game. I probably have the least amount of respect for these people than anyone. They hope that by reporting others, their rankings will improve. I learn from my competitors, and it pisses me off when someone acheives higher rankings than I with a bogus OLD technique. It still NEVER justifies reporting them in my opinion/code.

Journalist

For people whose business model is based on news, hype, ratings, and traffic - they’re going to out as much stuff as they can to get the traffic. Just the same as traditional media, they are not active practicioners of SEO. The trouble becomes when you are an active practicioner of SEO and don’t respect your craft enough to have a solid code.

Pointy White Hat "Ethical" SEO.

These folks have spam report bookmarklets in their tool bar, and pride themselves on making the web a better place (by ruining other people’s livelihoods) because they think google will make a rather benovelent dictatorship. Kind of the equivalent of the religious right, and often get outed themselves with something equally as morally ambiguous like Jimmy Swaggert or Larry Craig.

Search Engine Engineer

Always okay. It’s they’re job, and at least their consistent in what they do. Even google japan deserves a penalty for buying links. I respect consistency.

It’s very difficult to be respected by both sides of the fence, but in order to do it you have to have a level of respect for both sides of those playing the SEO game.

So the question becomes - when is it okay to "out" a site, and where do you see yourself on the spectrum? Anything I missed?

Shoemoney Tools Board Member

Just a quick note to everyone to check out Shoemoney’s new Tools. I’m very proud to announce I’ll be on Jeremy’s Board to help out with the tools. They’ve got some great stuff in there already, and you can bet that Mr. Dillsmack will be coming up with some sick new stuff as well. Looking forward to seeing their arsenal expand.

Recent Interviews - Search Engine Journal and Voices of Search

I did a couple of interviews at SMX Advanced in Seattle that have recently been published. Thanks to Tom Schmitz, the Seattle SEO, for the interview on Voices of Search - You can check it out here We talked about professional career progression, industry history, and other internet marketing tips. The second interview is with Rhea Drysdale, of Less Everything (who does some awesome Ruby on Rails Development). Rhea’s interview with me is at Search Engine Journal - You can read the interview with Rhea here. Since I’m being shameless today, I also redesigned ToddMalicoat.com recently - which archives all interviews, mentions, etc. Wow - if my head gets any bigger, I’m not going to fit into my house soon.

Interview About Link Baiting and SEO Consulting with David Flowers

I spent about 45 minutes talking with David Flowers about a variety of topics including seo consulting, linkbaiting, social media marketing, and a variety of other SEM topics. I think it came out pretty nicely, and David had some great questions. You can listen to the interview here.

Rush Hour - Neil Patel and Cameron Olthuis on WebmasterRadio

My good buddies Neil Patel and Cameron Olthuis must be working overtime these days. They’ve just recently become “evangelists” for Text Link Ads, and are also doing a new show called “Rush Hour” on webmasterradio.fm - tune in for the first show which will be held weekly Wednesdays at 4:00 pm. I’m honored to say that I’ll also be their first guest on the show, if there’s anything social media related that you’d like to hear covered, feel free to post it here, and we’ll see about putting it on. My only worry for them is that they cover too much of the REALLY good stuff that is working well these days. These guys are sharp, and it should be a great show to listen to for all you webheads out there. Be sure to tune in!

Video on Social Media, Digg, and Choosing an SEO with Neil Patel

If you haven’t seen the videos on Webpronews, now is a good time to check them out. The fellas over at WPN have done a real nice job creating some very professional looking videos. I did a video with Mike McDonald, and Neil Patel of ProNet Advertising on the do’s and don’ts of Digg, future of social media, and some tips on how to choose an SEO company or consultant. It even almost looks like I know what I’m talking about! Check out the video here.

My Best Posts of 2006

I have 18 posts listed - which means I’m good for about 1.5 GOOD posts per month. To all the bloggers out there - it’s really not about quantity - it’s about quality. Each one of these posts took MANY hours, but the links that they garnished were fairly exceptional. The moral of the story is to put in the extra work it takes to make something GREAT instead of just something decent.

Hey Rand, Aaron, Bill, and any other great bloggers I can’t seem to keep up with - it’s not TOO late to do this - and it’s very helpful to your users. Follow Brian and Seth’s lead and just base it on your user stats if you’re feeling really lazy. (If you’re feeling ambitious - sift out the news-related stuff, and just list the more time-tested articles).

Thanks to all the folks who linked to these article - and for you for reading, commenting, and encouraging me to keep writing stuff when it sometimes seems like such a pain. Have a great 2007.

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