Filed under: Industry Stuff by Stuntdubl SEO at 4:48 pm, 5/31/2007
Starting the ridiculous round of investment in such a terrible idea. Continue doing this, and the end will definitely be near. This is so bad I will even give them a link (though I’ve decided it should contain the anchor text “squidoo crackbaby”). Seriously - if you guys are GIVING away money to shit like this, I’ve got an awesome bridge in Brooklyn that we can put google ads on. Scraped content commented on by people who are too lazy to get a real job? I’m sure the quality control level should stay very high, and there will be no incentive for payoffs on terms like “mortgage” (because that never happend on dmoz). Why not listen to some folks that know about search, and social media for investment advice and ideas in the space, instead of a guy with a giant ego that knows how to job jump? This cute little hawaiian phrase is gonna be the pets.com sock puppet of this era. Maybe high risk is good, but putting the money into this project is just the first sign that NO ONE with the money has much of a clue what is really going on, and that they’re only going to learn the economics of search the really hard way. Please stop the madness. I generally try to only write positively - but this was just too much to take without ranting, after all the BS we’ve seen spewed from this man just to get a reaction.
12 Reasons this is the worst idea ever and will never make money
1. No real business model - Adsense is not a long term solution for a search engine.
2. Shitty relevance - just because they’re people - doesn’t mean they’re smart.
3. There is no google killer - there will be one google - at this point, we can only hope to contain them - the barrier to entry is far to high. How hard is it for them to snag and change the best ideas, or worst case, buy them out? Pick a narrow niche, and hope for a buyout, or an area where they’re weak, and get entrenched before they smell ya comin’.
4. Aggregating content is not a $100 million dollar value add - A good programmer will make you a mashup MUCH cheaper, and there is plenty of ways to DIY.
5. This was actually a pretty good idea the first time around - it was called Squidoo - and philanthropic motives helped it to get much closer to a tipping point than this ever will.
6. Just because something is promoted with a negative energy, and becomes remarkable, doesn’t mean it will STAY remarkable and succeed. I might tell people ABOUT it - but not to use it.
7. Paying people peanuts is not going to generate expert content. True motivation MIGHT, but I don’t really see the founder as a positive leader of men.
8. Zero Trustrank (though this can probably be overcome though)
9. G will stop indexing at some point (I hope they have a good PPC person for driving traffic)
10. It’s a squidoo crackbaby - skinny (with content), diseased (with terrible ideas and aweful relevance), and needy (asking for money).
11. Who the hell believes this will be a scaleable solution to good information?
12. There is a name for people who write content on the web - they’re called bloggers, and they can make plenty more money writing on their OWN site, and keeping all of the ad money, once they figure out the distribution channels.
Sequoia’s VC’s are either really really smart - knowing that when people give up on a google killer, it will further inflate G’s stock, or really really stupid (believing that an MFA SE will work). To the other investors - social proof is not always a positive thing. Yes - there are plenty of smart folks on board, but just because Mark Cuban is generally a smart guy and has lots of money, does not mean he is always right.
More (why not listen to people who KNOW about search and what works?)
Threadwatch
Valleywag
Scoreboard - Mahalo Sucks
Tropical SEO
Search Engine Land
MFAhalo?
MFA Hollow?
(Just in case the VC’s don’t get it - MFA stands for MADE FOR ADSENSE - known as a pretty terrible long term business model in the SEO community - next time get a couple of SEO types, the folks who focus on REAL money making models, to give their two pennies if something will work making this kind of impulse buy.)
Filed under: Industry Stuff by Stuntdubl SEO at 3:01 pm, 3/26/2007
It actually pains me to put Jason C’s name in a title after all the attention he gleans with the attack hook. This time he actually managed to get himself free SEO consulting as well. I just don’t bother to argue with the haterz like this anymore (at a certain point the skin thickens, and just knowing that your right provides more solace than public outbursts), but I have to commend Neil on taking the time to prove this guy wrong after all the flack and disrespect JC has shown the SEO community. He’s certainly not the first, but he has definitely been the extreme. It is admirable that Neil took the time to explain to someone who will never “get SEO” anyhow - if only to shut him up for a few minutes. Check out how Neil won the bet with only 10% of recommended changes made (Here’s the info on the challenge). It’s painful to think that Neil is helping to give the guy MORE of a soapbox to yell stupidity from, but at least everytime the subject of SEO pops up, the facts will speak for themselves (assuming he’s actually smart enough to implement the rest of the changes Neil provided). We’ll be looking forward to that official “SEO is awesome” statement, and timing how long it takes you to contradict yourself Jason.
Filed under: Industry Stuff by Stuntdubl SEO at 11:30 am, 3/22/2007
Andy Beal started a really cool scholarship last year, and has brought it back this year. With an esteemed group of judges and then me - he’ll be giving away a bunch of great SEM prizes worth upwards of 10k to the lucky winner. There was some really excellent entries last year - and the big winner was Ben Wills, a very sharp dude (and also a real good guy) who wrote about the 5 Pillars of Social Media Marketing. Find out more about the search engine marketing scholarship at Marketing Pilgrim.
Filed under: Industry Stuff by Stuntdubl SEO at 5:58 pm, 1/22/2007
Yes - it’s shameless, but I’m not above it. Hell, most of you think I’d hack my own site for links (kidding, kidding) Please join mybloglog community. I can’t honestly say there is much in it for you except a sincere thank you:) The truth is, I just wanna see if I can get up in the ranks of Graywolf, who has cracked the top 50. I also wanted to take this opportunity to post about a security issue that Jusso thankfully alerted me to. Make sure to upgrade your “MyAvatars” plugin if you are running it on your site. The old version includes your users “mailto” address (not cool). For more on the problem, see Jusso’s post, and download the latest version of myAvatars.
Filed under: Industry Stuff by Stuntdubl SEO at 3:01 am, 1/15/2007
Thought it worth mentioning that the gents of TextLinkBrokers are launching SponsoredReviews.com, the newest player in the pay for review space. This should be a great service to keep your eyes on, and supplement your SEO efforts. (*Note - this was not a paid review - Jarrod and Troy are just good guys whose services I’ve always been happy with). ReviewMe my current favorite, but it’s always great to have good options. I’m sure that SponsoredReviews will be top notch when they launch officially in a few weeks.
Filed under: Buzz Marketing, Industry Stuff by Stuntdubl SEO at 1:14 pm, 1/12/2007
If I actually didn’t trust ALL of the people already starting this one, I probably wouldn’t have helped to spread this idea - but since you guys rock, and since trust of folks in the community is so damn important - I’m placing the livelihood of this meme squarely on Andy Hagans to pass on.
Greg’s running a trust meme, I got trusted so here goes
Greg Niland
trusts
Rae Hoffman
trusts
Michael Gray
trusts
Todd Malicoat
trusts
Andy Hagans
trusts
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Filed under: Industry Stuff, Internet Marketing by Stuntdubl SEO at 7:02 pm, 12/31/2006
It’s been a pretty cool year in the world of search marketing, and the year end roundups are always a great time to build those bookmarks full of a ton of great information that you’ll likely never have a chance to go back and read (learn to skim or speedread). I thought I’d take a look at some of the topics I discussed last year, and see what panned out, and what hasn’t yet come to fruition (as well as some things I missed. It didn’t seem like I had a lot of new predictions, but there are a few near the bottom. Here’s my predictions from last year, and how I think they’re doing.
2006 SEO Predictions Review
- viral link attraction - the increase in popularity of social network sites will continue to make this more and more important. The ability to cater your message to individual demographics, and reach the mavens, salespeople, and connectors within a specific industry will continue to make this skill an increasingly valuable one.
- user generated content - Content is the "blocking" of search marketing. If you can get your users to do the work for you, you are doing something right. Make image tagging a game and get someone cool on board to promote it.
- bashing pagerank - I will always have a secret love of toolbar pagerank - at least it’s still good to explain link popularity. Just be sure to explain the history and contradictions of pagerank to your clients.
- on-page naturalization - fix your overkill SEO. You don’t need to go overboard. Three things - content, links, structure. If you can’t figure out on page, you had better start selling some "branding based services"
- "non-seo" links - Think google doesn’t have a nice big map of scummy seo links? I think you had better have a career backup plan.
- trusted links - trust is the new SEO. Good business is trust. The best SEO’s know how to budget their time effectively for things that make the most impact. I spend A LOT of time on trusted links.
- content with links exchange - recips are dead. Long live context exchange, and cooperative business model cross-pollination.
- geovertical targeting - I hope you’ve figured out that local search WASN’T just hype. I think geovertical targeting will be the major catalyst for mobile search once we all have better devices, where it isn’t easier to just fire up a laptop.
- community reviewed content - I should have seen digg coming sooner. Peer reviewed content (more importantly by qualified expert) will be the "audit" level that is needed on top of traditional search in vertical areas. Strong expert peer review is the unique selling point needed by any vertical or niche search engine or website.
- url rewriting for user appearance and viral distribution - Wordpress helped to propogate this idea, and it has been extremely effective. Sites that use effective rewriting from launch (or relaunch) position themselves much more effectively for long term growth. There are several benefits to creating proper urls, and the value will only continue to grow over time.
- trustbox - I’m a bit surprised there isn’t more discussion of the "trustbox". The idea of the sandbox took off, but ideas for improving credibility and trust seem to be few and far between. Perhaps this stems from most ideas being overly used and abused to some extent once they are shared.
- article submission - I doubt this will ever go away. Targeting specific sites with well written article to obtain trusted links will always be a good strategy. They want exceptional content. You NEED strong trusted links. Don’t be afraid to pitch big sites with good ideas.
- media distrubution communication - The lines between social media and public relations has, and will continue to blur. The more you understand both, the more effective you will become at packaging and delivering your message.
- blog community outreach - If you’re not reaching out to big bloggers in your arena (and sucking up to them) - your competitors are likely giving you an ass whooping in the SERPS.
- web-copy language synonymy substitution - please use thesaurus.com regularly. SEO copywriting IS NOT repeating keywords anymore. Not even BOTS want to read an article that repeats itself and looks like it was written by a fourth grader anymore.
- information architecture and strategic deeplinking - I am continually amazed at how underestimated this is to the overall process of search marketing. A strong information architecture is the critical to the success of any SEM campaign. Start with your foundation - or start over. Plan a deeplink strategy to any and all of your many categories. Decide between subdomains and subdirectories. If your CEO didn’t do this - find a new company or tell them why you should be doing their job.
- gut feel and multi recipe conversion tracking - Split testing, funnel testing, landing page optimization - whatever you call it, you should be doing it. If you’re not converting, your SEO is pretty pointless
- algorithm variable hedge betting - Even if Matt, Brian, Aaron, or any other generous soul at google gave me the current secret sauce, I would likely change very little of the process I use for an online marketing campaign. Developing a process that isn’t dependent on the latest algorithm shift is the best type of SEM you can create. Plan for fluxuations - don’t build sites for search engines - but build sites that search engineers would approve of.
- rise of user tagging and bookmarking incentivization - User tagging has gained some momentum, but there is still a WIDE OPEN marketplace for creative new business models that offer worthwhile incentivization for community contribution. This is one of the areas I think I was looking a bit too far ahead on.
- discussion of online media - Traditional media outlets are definitely making the discussions more interesting. As more people catch on to what we’ve been doing for years, more people start to get interested and talk about it. Just the sheer growth size of the conferences proves the attention that it is getting.
- parasite SEO - This will only grow, and likely continue to add to the stigma associated with SEO.
- sandbox existence debates - This has died down as people gain understanding of the new principles of search engine ranking factors. (Thank God!)
- real marketing principles actually start to matter again - I guess they never went away. In a year’s time, I’ve come to appreciate "traditional marketing" a whole lot more.
- automated mass tag distibution - this still hasn’t been beat up TOO badly (I’m surpised some better wordpress extensions haven’t been developed), but as tagging gets easier, I would imagine it will, and "meta-tags 2.0" will become less useful unless they are audited by human quality control.
- reputation management through the blogosphere - I think more folks will either embrace reputation management and optimization for their names and/or alter egos and do so proactively. It was kinda cool to see Ted Leonsis address this issue, and it was a shame we didn’t pull him into the search marketing community a bit more.
- one box optimization - Many more people should listen to Brian Mark about one-box optimization. I’m sure he’s not the only one who’s used the one box (among other things) to build a company’s site traffic to the point they can barely keep up. There is growing opportunity and competition in this area every day.
- affiliate content network based sales generation - CPA would have been an easier way to say this. I think Cost Per Acquisition networks are growing by leaps and bounds, but they also bring their own unique problems with fraud, and CPC will continue to be a model that is effective and not always replaceable.
- SE based PPC tools - PPC is the search engine’s bread and butter. Not surprisingly, we saw Google release tools like their adwords editor, adwords landing page optimizer, and a whole ton of tutorials and information for PPC managers. The release of panama from yahoo was a big step, and could certainly be seen as a better "tool" for managing YSM.
- SE click fraud tools in response to increased advertiser pressure - There’s still plenty of room for improvement, but improvement HAS been made by both 3rd parties, an understanding from advertisers on auditing quality clicks, and the search engine’s tracking and enforcement of click fraud.
- lots of msn acquisitions and products - It seems like there were many more google and yahoo buys. Bill or Balmer - it’s TIME to break out the checkbooks. You can’t HIRE the good developers anymore. It’s time to take search serious and starting shelling out some cash. It would not be at all surprising to see yahoo and msn join forces. The battle for search is no longer about relevance - it’s about loyal user base.
- vertical niche specialization - Pick a vertical niche and automate. Write what you know, etc. Just ask the guys at local launch what a good idea focusing on local search was.
- page view maximization - I’m really happy when the page view averages improve on my sites. Incorporate statistic and analytic information you can actually USE, and yours might improve as well.
- page view duration optimization - see above
- usability and standards compliance - Not too many big lawsuits on this front during the year, but this will become more and more of an issue as we all start to depend more on the internet for the tasks of daily life.
- content contribution incentivization - Still LOTS of opportunity here. Incentivization is NOT necessarily always monetary. Unique business models are what dominate the web. If it wasn’t so damn cliche and anti-creative, I would tell you to "think outside the box" or "shift your paradigm".
- mobile content optimization - still a bit early on this one. Everyone needs the cool mobile devices they have in Japan. It’s hard to sell people on thumbtyping when normally we’re only minutes away from a laptop and a net connection if we’re truly net junkies. As devices get improve there is still opportunities in this area.
- fictional users - HOW many users does myspace, facebook, and digg have? Riiiiiiiight.
- "trust spam" - See parasite SEO.
- improved tracking capability - Tools for tracking are the most important developments in search. If you don’t have good tracking tools for your company - you had better hope someone catches on to it soon, or start polishing your resume.
- personalization manipulation - Personalized search is still not quite mainstream - this will likely be the future of "blackhat seo". In my humble opinion blackhat is only worthwhile in niches I don’t personally work in. If you’re going to go to all that trouble, you might as well put together a plan that will ultimately be legit to a search engine quality control rep.
Things I didn’t see coming in search this year -
Paid reviews on blogs - services like ReviewMe, Payperpost, Blogsvertise, and many others that will continue to evolve and improve in the marketplace. I think these are a great idea as they pick up traction in vertical spaces they will become absolutely essential to the search marketing/ online marketing mix.
Danny leaving SEW - gonna be really interesting to see what our fearless leader does next (Did ANYONE see that one coming?).
New predictions for 2007
- Google is no longer a media darling - but will handle the press fine and continue to dominate search, and creep their way into every other media further and further. Good luck stopping them.
- Wikipedia will not "kill" Google
- A proliferation of pligg sites (or subdomains on sites) - as people try to adapt and improve the digg model to given verticals.
- People will realize social media is really just the human quality audit that search needed
- Best SEO’s will embrace "defensible traffic"
- At least 3 larger SEO companies will get gobbled up by big ad agencies for technology, personnel, or process
- Social media optimization will become part of public relations
- Reputation management will become a part of public relations
- Billions of man hours will be wasted watching online videos
- AJAX, gradients, and beta tags will continue to rule the world
- CPA will not solve clickfraud
- Mobile search still won’t be HUGE this year
Let me know if anyone else has any cool 2006 roundups or lists.
Happy New Year’s Everyone - Have a great 2007